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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 8:06:43 GMT -8
I'm sure they're horrible people, but by this rationale shouldn't we invade Pakistan too so they won't have a place to hide?
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Post by mqd123 on Oct 10, 2012 20:05:01 GMT -8
I'm sure they're horrible people, but by this rationale shouldn't we invade Pakistan too so they won't have a place to hide? Technically we did when we took out OBL. Personally, I don't know why we haven't. Especially after reading the accounts from the Outlaw Platoon where troops from Pakistan were physically shielding enemy troops from the U.S. preventing us from firing upon them and even participated in direct attacks on U.S. positions - the media left that out from their reports for some reason. Why not invade? I guess two wars in the Middle East in the last 10 years is enough?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2012 8:22:56 GMT -8
Similar to Vietnam, where the war spread to Laos & Cambodia.
Why not invade? We don't have the forces & money to control Pakistan.
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Post by mqd123 on Oct 11, 2012 17:52:23 GMT -8
Similar to Vietnam, where the war spread to Laos & Cambodia. Why not invade? We don't have the forces & money to control Pakistan. Like I said, two wars in 10 years is enough.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2012 23:51:19 GMT -8
Lucky we live here and not there!
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Post by mqd123 on Oct 12, 2012 3:34:04 GMT -8
Lucky we live here and not there! I wake up every morning thinking that exact thought. Strange as it sounds, I think if you were an immigrant, you have a better understanding of what a unique and incredible country this is.
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Post by mrbmwguy206 on Oct 31, 2012 21:58:24 GMT -8
In front of me I have, "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin De Becker. I started that one, have to get back to it after I finish the one I'm working on. Give us a review when you're done. I finished The Gift of Fear a couple of weeks ago. Not sure if you finished it yet but it's a very good read. It's great for women so give it to your wives or girlfriends to read. The author talks about gun safety and seems to be a bit anti-gun but he does have point that the gun owner is responsible for owning one. Next books are Warrior Mindset, On Killing:The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society, and On Combat: The Psychology and Physiology of Deadly Conflict in War and in Peace.
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Post by Stan on Nov 1, 2012 19:09:50 GMT -8
Technically I think Pock-ee-ston is Asia and considered an "ally"...please don't laugh too hard. They are also a nuclear power which makes an invasion complicated. My guess is we'll play India against Pak should the time come and India is probably still sore about that business in Mumbai. Read more: www.stcrispian.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=advice&thread=54&page=4#980#ixzz2B2VwgYcaRemember...they had no idea OBL was there... I'm sure they're horrible people, but by this rationale shouldn't we invade Pakistan too so they won't have a place to hide? Technically we did when we took out OBL. Personally, I don't know why we haven't. Especially after reading the accounts from the Outlaw Platoon where troops from Pakistan were physically shielding enemy troops from the U.S. preventing us from firing upon them and even participated in direct attacks on U.S. positions - the media left that out from their reports for some reason. Why not invade? I guess two wars in the Middle East in the last 10 years is enough?
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Post by mqd123 on Nov 1, 2012 19:27:57 GMT -8
Stan, you're right. I totally forgot that it has nukes.
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Post by Stan on Nov 1, 2012 21:24:39 GMT -8
Stan, you're right. I totally forgot that it has nukes. And India too, what a tangled web. I never understood the animosity between the two, I guess its like North and South Ireland.
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Post by supernachos on Nov 1, 2012 21:45:33 GMT -8
Stan, you're right. I totally forgot that it has nukes. And India too, what a tangled web. I never understood the animosity between the two, I guess its like North and South Ireland. The viotility in the region stemmed partially once again by the fault of the British Colonials who carved up the 3 countries (Pakistan, India and Bangladesh/East Pakistan) after WWII and gave them independence. Just like the mess in the Middle East when they carved up Palestine,Syria,Iraq,Jordan (etc) without really thinking about the monumental mess they'll leave behind ... Another long war based on religion. Hindu versus Muslim. Sad situation really. I have had both Pakistani and Indian friends growing up in International School and they are just like you and me. No different and proud of their own past history and heritage . In that sense one can't really stereotype a Pakistani. Both nations had quite a few wars in the disputed Kashmir region and are still on high alert. Hence both Pakistan and Inida has an arms race which ended up with both nation possessing the nuclear bomb. Whether they have the means to deliver the warhead and detonate it is another thing.
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Post by mqd123 on Nov 2, 2012 5:50:39 GMT -8
And India too, what a tangled web. I never understood the animosity between the two, I guess its like North and South Ireland. The viotility in the region stemmed partially once again by the fault of the British Colonials who carved up the 3 countries (Pakistan, India and Bangladesh/East Pakistan) after WWII and gave them independence. Just like the mess in the Middle East when they carved up Palestine,Syria,Iraq,Jordan (etc) without really thinking about the monumental mess they'll leave behind ... Another long war based on religion. Hindu versus Muslim. Sad situation really. I have had both Pakistani and Indian friends growing up in International School and they are just like you and me. No different and proud of their own past history and heritage . In that sense one can't really stereotype a Pakistani. Both nations had quite a few wars in the disputed Kashmir region and are still on high alert. Hence both Pakistan and Inida has an arms race which ended up with both nation possessing the nuclear bomb. Whether they have the means to deliver the warhead and detonate it is another thing. Funny you should mention religion based wars. I'm currently reading "God and the Folly of Faith" by Victor Stenger. Very interesting book and I pretty much agree with him. Like someone said "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings."
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Post by Stan on Nov 2, 2012 19:10:28 GMT -8
The viotility in the region stemmed partially once again by the fault of the British Colonials who carved up the 3 countries (Pakistan, India and Bangladesh/East Pakistan) after WWII and gave them independence. Just like the mess in the Middle East when they carved up Palestine,Syria,Iraq,Jordan (etc) without really thinking about the monumental mess they'll leave behind ... Another long war based on religion. Hindu versus Muslim. Sad situation really. I have had both Pakistani and Indian friends growing up in International School and they are just like you and me. No different and proud of their own past history and heritage . In that sense one can't really stereotype a Pakistani. Both nations had quite a few wars in the disputed Kashmir region and are still on high alert. Hence both Pakistan and Inida has an arms race which ended up with both nation possessing the nuclear bomb. Whether they have the means to deliver the warhead and detonate it is another thing. Funny you should mention religion based wars. I'm currently reading "God and the Folly of Faith" by Victor Stenger. Very interesting book and I pretty much agree with him. Like someone said "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." The very basic instinct of man is to look for differences in one another; religion is just one of those. From a common conversation I had: What have people killed more people over? Dirt (real estate). What has killed more people than religion? Mother Nature, that witch is cold hearted. Who is worse than mother nature? Father Time, that sonofagun averages 100 to 0 no questions asked.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2012 16:42:31 GMT -8
I just finished reading "Wild" by Cheryl Strayed, non-fiction about a young woman who hikes the Pacific Crest Trail alone to get away from her problems - amazing read! Would love to hike the PCT or one of the other cross-US trails (CDT or AT). www.cherylstrayed.com/wild_108676.htm
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Post by magnum8898 on Nov 6, 2012 7:04:41 GMT -8
Thanks for all the interesting books to read. Question, has anybody read, "combat gunfighting" by Michael T. Rayburn?
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