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Post by mqd123 on May 7, 2012 21:37:32 GMT -8
Dumb question. But the Shoot House, we shooting Live ammo? Simunitions? or Airsoft? On a side note ( I cant believe no one suggested it yet). I would be interested in a Long range / Sniper course. I sold off my Savage 10 but I still got my Chinese Dragunov and Springfield M14. Would like to push these guys out to >1000meters. If anything else, just professional instruction on marksmanship. I think Stan said somewhere that it's coming. I just wonder where the class will be. Do the current sites have ranges over 50m?
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Post by wckalijkd on May 7, 2012 21:47:42 GMT -8
Dumb question. But the Shoot House, we shooting Live ammo? Simunitions? or Airsoft? On a side note ( I cant believe no one suggested it yet). I would be interested in a Long range / Sniper course. I sold off my Savage 10 but I still got my Chinese Dragunov and Springfield M14. Would like to push these guys out to >1000meters. If anything else, just professional instruction on marksmanship. I think Stan said somewhere that it's coming. I just wonder where the class will be. Do the current sites have ranges over 50m?U mean the Iron Sights on the rifles? M14 (RAW) is the loaded package. Irons out to 1000. My NDM-86 Dragunov (RAW) has a 8x42 PSOP scope good for 800m.
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Post by hayaku on May 7, 2012 21:51:13 GMT -8
ASR out to 600 yards Pala out to 1000 yards Pendleton 1000+ yards depending on which range they allow you on burro canyong out to 210 yards lytle creek out to 300 yards
blm out to as far as you can see...
would like to see the 1 mile mark with 308 (since it's the new black and all...)
i got metal targets on stands we can take (ar500 from socaltargetworks). need to go dig up my bolt guns, ballistic calc, and weather device...
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Post by nelsona on May 8, 2012 4:49:56 GMT -8
+1 on long distance class.
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Post by Stan on May 8, 2012 8:13:55 GMT -8
Shoot house = live fire with dry practice of course. No more than two shooters at a time due to risk vs reward.
Long Range Rifle @ Angeles.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2012 11:26:53 GMT -8
grenades?
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Post by serpenthammer on May 8, 2012 12:42:15 GMT -8
you mean flash bangs or distraction devices right ? I know that those are already considered controlled devices ... I know that grenades would literally bring the house down! Usage of grenades will definitely find ourselves looking out from the inside of a jail house and require the services of a lawyer ..hint..hint..
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Post by serpenthammer on May 8, 2012 12:53:18 GMT -8
Promise I will bring airsoft flashbangs ..just as effective !
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Post by mqd123 on May 8, 2012 14:32:47 GMT -8
Are flashbangs illegal for civilians? Must be. I can't find any online
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Post by hayaku on May 8, 2012 14:56:30 GMT -8
you mean flash bangs or distraction devices right ? I know that those are already considered controlled devices ... I know that grenades would literally bring the house down! Usage of grenades will definitely find ourselves looking out from the inside of a jail house and require the services of a lawyer ..hint..hint.. Don't you guys watch myth busters? Spray the house with truck bed liner to make it bomb proof. If it can handle c4, it'll handle our firecrackers easily...
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Post by serpenthammer on May 8, 2012 15:18:02 GMT -8
MQD .. ALS is a leading distraction device maker but only LE and MIL have access to it and rightfully so. I witnessed a bang going off in a trooper's hand during CQB exerises in the Phil in 2005 ..Take it from me ...It wasnt a hapy day for all most especially the trooper who lost his hand and the guy who had to take the hand to the hospital ...lost a hi-speed shooter that day as he was on disablity soon after.
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Post by Stan on May 8, 2012 18:50:29 GMT -8
Are flashbangs illegal for civilians? Must be. I can't find any online Probably, but I've been told they sell M-80 firecrackers in Chinatown amongst other things...
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Post by jmsenk on May 8, 2012 23:05:57 GMT -8
Are flashbangs illegal for civilians? Must be. I can't find any online Probably, but I've been told they sell M-80 firecrackers in Chinatown amongst other things... Yeah, there's probably a lot you can find in Chinatown... just sayin
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Post by mqd123 on May 9, 2012 12:08:24 GMT -8
MQD .. ALS is a leading distraction device maker but only LE and MIL have access to it and rightfully so. I witnessed a bang going off in a trooper's hand during CQB exerises in the Phil in 2005 ..Take it from me ...It wasnt a hapy day for all most especially the trooper who lost his hand and the guy who had to take the hand to the hospital ...lost a hi-speed shooter that day as he was on disablity soon after. Well, everything that we're handling at the range can cause serious injury or death if we're not cautious. I just don't see flashbang any more dangerous than my rifle if I'm negligent with it. So, I'm not sure why they are off limits to civilians. But hey, I'm not as wise as our legislatures.
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Post by jvv556 on May 9, 2012 13:01:09 GMT -8
I think that grenades are considered destructive explosives/devices under the 1968 law, so flashbang being considered a grenade falls under this. The funny thing is that tannerite is totally legal in all 50 states and can produce much higher yield explosions.
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